of new york times Meta (parent company of Facebook, Instagram, Meta AI, and more) reported last year that it considered acquiring Simon & Schuster to train large-scale language models based on its books.
Lawyers and engineers last year discussed buying publisher Simon & Schuster to source long-form works, according to records of internal meetings obtained by the Times. They also discussed collecting copyrighted data from across the Internet, even if it meant facing lawsuits. They said licensing negotiations with publishers, artists, musicians and the news industry would take too long.
They considered compensating authors…to a certain extent:
In March and April 2023, some of the company's business development leaders, engineers, and attorneys met nearly every day to work on this issue. Some discussed paying him $10 per book for full licensing rights to new titles. We also talked about how we've summarized books, essays, and other works from the internet without permission, and discussed siphoning more out of them, even if it means facing lawsuits. According to the recording, a lawyer warned of “ethical” concerns about taking intellectual property away from artists, but was met with silence. Mr. Zuckerberg demanded a solution, employees said. Meta executives said it appears OpenAI used copyrighted material without permission. They say it would take too long for Meta to negotiate licenses with publishers, artists, musicians and the news industry, according to the recording.
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Featuring S&S CEO Jonathan Karp new york times I said this later on the podcast.
I had no idea this conversation was happening. The article cited private conversations that no one knew about. This was really news to everyone. confirmed. No one knew that something like this had happened… So this was unusual…. Instead, I think they decided to steal everything.
Karp said the large-scale language model was clearly trained on data obtained illegally, “and that's a violation.” That would be a mistake and the courts will likely intervene. I think we just need to be patient. We are a nation of laws, so we look forward to seeing these laws implemented. ”
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